tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post4055988350890907655..comments2024-03-26T04:27:54.485-06:00Comments on Du Wax Loolu: Dual citizenshipJesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15942269316108576622noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-35239308146107143852010-09-07T16:38:59.075-06:002010-09-07T16:38:59.075-06:00Just a heads up: the difficult part of getting a B...Just a heads up: the difficult part of getting a BBG approved is not that T. still has strong ties to Germany but to prove that he would be at a disadvantage by not taking on US citizenship (merely being a permanent resident).<br /><br />(Actually I just saw Sarah already raised this issue, so I guess, never mind. I hope T can find a way to keep his German citizenship. Like him, I'd never give up my German passport but I would also want dual citizenship after living in the US for so many years (I don't live there, just hypothetically).Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09989730055534096822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-69355127733063934622010-09-02T14:02:53.554-06:002010-09-02T14:02:53.554-06:00This is fascinating! I'm especially interested...This is fascinating! I'm especially interested because of my English boyfriend? beau? whateveryoucallit. Not that he's talking about moving here but it's a possibility I suppose. <br /><br />It sounds like you've got a good plan in place!Kristiehttp://www.mygrandillusions.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-83111071264043393532010-09-01T14:25:44.310-06:002010-09-01T14:25:44.310-06:00Wow, that's great! Keep us posted on any more...Wow, that's great! Keep us posted on any more info you find. <br /><br />If only Beibehaltungsgenehmigung was one of the questions on the German trivia round last night - I would've nailed it! ;-)Steviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12153149217472000710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-68924322078393472482010-09-01T13:40:50.800-06:002010-09-01T13:40:50.800-06:00@sarah: ;-) Don't be so German. I was just pul...@sarah: ;-) Don't be so German. I was just pulling some stuff out of my head. Agreed, homeownership wont' work. Much harder to prove why not having US citizenship is bad for you than proving that you should keep german....I do think I saw that listed though for making a case to show ties to Germany....that you own property....But again, that will not apply to the US thingy.<br /><br />I have two friends who sent me their paperwork, but both wanted to work in the Defense industry and therefore had a great reason.<br /><br />I am just going to have to wait and see what I come up with. Otherwise, I will be a permanent resident as long as they will have me ;)Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10436989792381600168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-74578765744530275952010-09-01T13:14:41.978-06:002010-09-01T13:14:41.978-06:00at "Me": I know there are lots of reason...at "Me": I know there are lots of reasons one could mention. Jess and Thorsten should check out some of the examples people posted on the zweipaesse group. But why would homeownership be a reason? You can be a homeowner in the US with a Green Card (or even without one). Thorsten started his own company, would it be believable if he submitted some job postings as proof that show he needs citizenship? <br /><br />Jess and Thorsten, good luck!sarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-61254266732654447942010-09-01T12:38:26.746-06:002010-09-01T12:38:26.746-06:00I really hope it works out for him. My mom got he...I really hope it works out for him. My mom got her US citizenship sometime in the early '00s, and unfortunately Germany wouldn't work with her. She is an only child and both parents and all of her family are still over there, and Germany said that wasn't enough of a reason. So, she got fed up and went with US only. But that was a few years ago. Hopefully Torsten will get to keep his because it is pretty handy being a dual citizen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-18885157892263269762010-09-01T12:09:07.856-06:002010-09-01T12:09:07.856-06:00Wow, very interesting! I am a dual citizen - born ...Wow, very interesting! I am a dual citizen - born in the US to Austrian parents, which means I was in a similar situation as your piglet. My problem is going to be with my (future, hypothetical) kids. I live in Austria now and plan on staying here. My boyfriend is Austrian. And from what I know so far, if my kids are born in Austria, they can have both citizenships, BUT they will have to CHOOSE one when they turn 18 (for whatever reason, they wouldn't have to choose if they were born in the US and didn't just get their US citizenship through me - go figure). And I don't know if I want to put them through having to make that decision (as a teenager, I was misinformed and thought for years I would have to decide and it would have been impossible for me). On the other hand, I don't want to take that choice away from them either.<br />Here is my boyfriend's solution: Fly to Hawaii, chill at the beach for a few weeks, have the baby there and then take a cruise back home with our newborn. Dilemma solved. Yeah, RIGHT.Catharinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05389111875826738317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-78235463066151171992010-09-01T11:49:32.330-06:002010-09-01T11:49:32.330-06:00You can certainly show evidence of home ownership ...You can certainly show evidence of home ownership in the United States, that he can't do certain jobs (Government employment and all). Those are reasons I have seen friends lay out in their paperwork. Especially the second one. I have no idea what I will put in mine yet. But I have all the time in the world to figure that out! LOLMehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10436989792381600168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-80039694892873572362010-09-01T10:07:44.599-06:002010-09-01T10:07:44.599-06:00Hi Jess, no, I don't have a blog, twitter acco...Hi Jess, no, I don't have a blog, twitter account etc. I'm not even on facebook. Oh man, when I read this I feel like a social outcast. lol. Well, I'm glad I could help. I hope this will work out for Thorsten. I know a lot of people who were granted the BBG, but also a lot of people who were denied, so it really depends on your situation. <br /><br />But after reading your post today, I just want to let you know also that you have to provide proof for two things: The first one is, as you mentioned, explain why you need to keep your German citizenship (which is usually easy to do as long as you have ties to Germany). But the second question is: Why do you need the American citizenship? And that's usually the toughest one. Thorsten has a Green Card, he can live in the U.S., work here etc. Just being able to vote is not a good enough reason. But there is a good yahoo group (in German though) that he should check out, with example applications...: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zweipaesse/<br /><br />Hope this helps!sarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-56217123706570965062010-09-01T08:45:55.262-06:002010-09-01T08:45:55.262-06:00I'm so glad you found out about "Insert i...I'm so glad you found out about "Insert incredibly long German word I can't spell here", Jess! It sounds like it is the way to go in your situation! I'm in a similar situation--my husband is a Canadian citizen with a Canadian passport and a permanent residency in the U.S. complete with green card (I was SO happy about him being able to go through the same line too!), and our daughter was born here, so she's obviously American. I'm not really sure when/if my husband will apply for citizenship. Canada has no problem with dual citizens, so it's not really an issue, but I'm not sure he sees a need for it just yet. He's also not very concerned about going through the process in Canada to give our daughter citizenship rights there...I think he just doesn't want to deal with the paperwork--the green card process was torturous, expensive, and confusing enough! But I think it is a good idea for the reasons you mentioned, and when we went to Canada in the spring, one of the Customs Agents, seeing our daughter's American passport, commented that he should because it opens up that many more jobs and opportunities for her someday, which is something he had not considered. So I think we will look into that, and I imagine as our daughter gets older, it may become more important for him to also be a citizen here, but I'm trying to let that be his call! Good luck to you and Torsten--I hope it all works out!Glam-O-Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270241700019080204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-91905235618732323472010-09-01T08:25:16.267-06:002010-09-01T08:25:16.267-06:00I love that it's looking like Torsten's ci...I love that it's looking like Torsten's citizenship will be a reflection of his real life ... both the United States and Germany!Nilsa @ SoMi Speakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08474642034399063234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-78684005700643330422010-09-01T08:05:34.971-06:002010-09-01T08:05:34.971-06:00That is one heck of a word! But I hope that long, ...That is one heck of a word! But I hope that long, long batch of letters can make the decision a lot easier for you guys! I was always envious of kids with dual citizenship growing up - especially because of how hard it is getting a Visa to live or work in other countries. (been there, done that!)Breathe Gentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11513783056593377296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2119996845182958780.post-67667161652653451812010-09-01T07:17:00.760-06:002010-09-01T07:17:00.760-06:00Yes. Since 2001 Germany allows dual citizenship. I...Yes. Since 2001 Germany allows dual citizenship. I haven't done my paperwork yet, but will do it since I have no desire to give you the right to live and work in 20-some European Union countries over obtaining citizenship here. I hope the German government grants my request and allows me to take on a second citizenship here in the US ;) So I can vote! :) <br /><br />Here are some pages you might like:<br />http://www.germany.info/Vertretung/usa/en/04__Legal/02__Directory__Services/02__Citizenship/__Citizenship.html<br /><br />And here is info for the Beibehaltungsgenehmigung. I know several people who have done it, I find the fee steep, but it is what it is :)<br /><br />http://www.germany.info/Vertretung/usa/en/04__Legal/02__Directory__Services/02__Citizenship/Citizenship__Loss.htmlMehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10436989792381600168noreply@blogger.com